ZENRA on the challenges facing Japanese porn today
We interviewed Jaldan of JAV streaming site ZENRA about what makes Japanese porn so special and popular, and the challenges facing the adult video industry today.
Q. Who are you and what services do you offer?
Thank you Tokyo Kinky and Kanajo Toys for this interview opportunity. ZENRA, which began as a traditional subscription-only paysite for Japanese adult video content, now also features pay-per-video and of course our industry blog, which has vastly grown in popularity since it began about four years ago. The paysite side updates three times a week with exclusively subtitled content and the blog almost every day.
The paysite focuses less on who is currently popular in JAV and more about movies that have unique themes regardless of who stars in them. Some may ask why we don’t focus on bigger names and the honest answer is not because of monetary reasons or being walled out (outside of one conglomerate we are at the point where can license most anything), but lots of those bigger name movies are quite vanilla and thus don’t seem worth much effort to subtitle at a professional level. We focus more on movies that go well with a professional subtitling treatment such as game shows, reality, cheating wives, massage scenarios, “people monitoring,” and more.
While until just a few weeks ago, we only offered subscriptions, as noted above, we just launched pay-per-video access. Users who prefer not to subscribe can now buy almost all of our content individually be it via “instant buys,” buying multiple movies via a shopping cart, or adding funds to one’s account to be used over time. Be it subscribing or buying via PPV, JAV studios are compensated similarly to how they are on other legit Japanese platforms.
Q. How did you get started in this industry?
If you can believe it, since 2000 I have had an on-and-off involvement with eCommerce. It’s very cliche, but computers have always fascinated me. We got our first one quite late compared to everyone else in my town in USA, but I got hooked fast and early to AOL (yes, I was one of those kids who had Fate X and a bunch of other progz on their Gateway computer). Somehow — and I don’t recall why — I figured out you could make money online. From “getting paid to surf” (nonstop ads on one’s screen for comforters from what I recall) I somehow crossed over to adult.
Q. What makes JAV so special and popular globally?
This is a funny question because in spite of its succinctness, it may require the longest explanation. This along with what I’ve seen such as the questions below this one I have been considered writing in a memoir of sorts some time in the future. There is A LOT to write and what’s available in English is either out of date, biased, or insufficient (of course my account also may not lack a bias, but being involved in the industry in a strictly non-production business-only position should bring something unique to the table).
Not counting the nascent TAV scene which at this point in time is still mostly emulating JAV with burgeoning artistic creativity while also utilizing a woefully small talent pool, there isn’t too much like it.
What makes JAV special, as the readers of Tokyo Kinky may already be aware, is less being simply “weird” — for which only really can apply to a small percentage of its output, but by the sheer amount of it produced given the size of the country. What’s more, in the west where adult film stars film “scenes,” be it a big or smaller studio, in mainstream JAV they film “movies.” Not 50-60 minute stories, but releases that can go over two hours.
Of course uncensored JAV veers more towards western run-time sensibilities and what I call “scene creep” is becoming an issue as late (“scene creep” I call movies that appear long just for the sake of being long mostly due to lazy editing). You really do get your money’s worth in a JAV movie!
As per JAV’s global popularity, that’s questionable. Sure, in countries surrounding Japan, it’s big and sometimes big enough to have actresses fly out, but I still think of it as more niche than other types of Japanese media. After all, if any of S1’s biggest names appeared at the AVN Expo, for example, even with name tags, it’s doubtful many — if any — there would know who they are.
Q. What are the challenges facing the industry right now?
There are many and most are self-inflicted. As the next question deals with billing, I will save my thoughts about that for later. The two biggest issues in “mainstream JAV” (basically anything from studios most fans at Tokyo Kinky are familiar with) are too many hands and resistance to reality.
Japan has had an established adult video industry for decades and it borrows a lot from other entertainment industries within the country. Studios shoot, agencies manage, distributors distribute, and stores/sites sell. In a perfect world, great, but that the internet is as open as it is, piracy knocks it all down and the industry even now is ill-equipped to handle it.
Studios don’t necessarily need dedicated distributors or even reliance on big platforms if they focus more on selling their brand and that users should go there first to buy their movies before going elsewhere (after all, while Vixen movies may legally be available on various platforms, most users still will initially associate going to their official sites to get them).
Agencies do a ton for actresses, but often charge an arm and a leg for it. Actresses with enough smarts can and should be able to do all their booking and managing needs on their own or with a personal assistant that surely would cost a lot less.
Distributors may help the studio that mainly just wants to focus on creating a product to get their works up for sale, but as we see, on the internet at least one platform in Japan among most is make it or break it for many studios and physical stores are dwindling in number every year.
Piracy, as noted is the now Grim Reaper holding a bag of Doritos behind a keyboard, and the JAV industry through its own self-inflicted actions has dropped the ball harder than any other entertainment industry in the world. Part of this comes from the Japanese market: it’s not a huge country and an aging one at that, but due to less people getting married and the otaku culture and oshikatsu, Japanese fans have the capability to spend a ton of money. Thus, while studios do indeed want to sell abroad as much as in Japan, the impetus to do so in any meaningful way is not there yet.
Why put so much effort into such little return if fans in one’s own country still buy so much? Of course, these same Japanese fans are getting smarter with the internet and know just as well as any foreigner that typing a code into Google may show DMM/Fanza first, but a few links down…
On the note of DMM, while R18.com when it was active did not totally destroy piracy, it surely helped lessen it compare to today. With DMM having so many exclusive studios and geo-blocking most of the world to boot, they are doing nothing to help reduce the spread of the industry’s biggest poison fruit. It almost seems a joke that they launched a JAV Anti-Piracy Project the other month and note on the site to buy from DMM. Oh, and I do purposely call the site DMM, not Fanza. When they have the guts to change the URL from dmm.co.jp and test their luck with Google, we can start calling it the other name.
Q. What is the recent trouble with payment providers?
There are many fan theories about this on Twitter. In fact, with DLSite, Getchu, and now Fantia losing Visa/MC processing, the rumors are running riot. First, the three aforementioned sites will probably get it back soon.
Rather than attempt mental gymnastics regarding pressure from religious lobbying in Japan (there really isn’t any it seems), Visa/MC wanting out of digital adult (they have said on multiple occasions that if it’s legal, they will process for it), or anything similar, the simplest reason I believe they lost processing is either non-existent compliance and/or their biller (singular because if they had multiple like most western sites do, this would not be happening) finally realizing that if these sites are accepting foreign cards, they need to abide by global processing rules — one of them being no “non-consensual adult content.”
Japanese adult content, as you know, has something of a non-con problem. It is also possible their biller is/was fine with adult, but the biller’s acquiring bank for Visa/MC had a change of heart for some reason (remember, these banks are the actual customers of the card companies, not merchant sites, not billers, and not the billions of people with plastic in their wallets).
On the subject of non-consensual content, while for anime, it’s obviously not real and for JAV studios like Attackers, it’s obviously staged and starring only 18+ performers giving their full, informed consent, most billers don’t want to play with fire because doing so could impact their own relationships with banks and card companies.
As for why Japanese adult platforms like DMM, DUGA, Sokmil, etc., are safe while DLSite and others aren’t? They all for the most part only allow Japanese-issued cards. As we noted more on our blog the other year, Japan has JCB. JCB built Japan’s processing network. JCB probably does not have same rules forbidding professionally-shot non-consensual adult content. Thus, no issue in Japan. Even if the Japan-issued card has a Visa logo on it, it goes through JCB. This is similar to how Russia created its own card network, thus when American companies pulled out of the country a few years ago, those cards could still be used.
This is also where R18 failed I believe: it was piggybacking off DMM’s processing setup and eventually encountered early on the same issues that now are plaguing DLSite, Fantia, and others. R18’s staff were probably given an impossible task of finding a Japanese biller to take them on and that obviously failed. It’s tragic because if they simply focused on the top-selling vanilla content, they’d have no issues with processing. Hopefully, if it does return, this is the path they take (hi DMM, if you are reading this and want to talk common sense compliance, you know how to reach me).
Alternatively, they and most any other J-platform like the ones mentioned here can and should incorporate abroad and spin up western versions of their sites without any compliance landmine content. If this isn’t already being covertly done at a frantic pace by the likes of Fantia, I’d be very surprised.
Q. How can overseas viewers and fans show their support for JAV?
The best way is by buying $55 USD T-shirts sold by DMM’s Anti-Piracy Project of course. Joking aside, instead of plugging our site and taking the easy way out, please visit a list of legal JAV sites that have English versions (not auto translations, but ones that seem like the entity put in effort to make it) at r/jav.
Of course though we can and will use this opportunity to also plug our site. While as noted way above, we may not have all the new movies for mostly editorial reasons, if you still want to support the industry, even spending $7.95 to stream a movie by a studio you like (even if you don’t watch it, they get credited) can go a long way. Like SOD Stars? Mana Sakura? Buy streaming access for a random SOD movie from our site each month.
Over the summer we plan to add even more ways users can help out studios without spending a dime in the form of writing especially good comments on our site for PPV credit. Use credits to buy movies and studios make money not from your wallet, but simply for helping us out.
Q. What is it like working with JAV production companies?
This will be a disappointing answer for most, I’m sorry ahead of time. While I work with production companies and have been in many of their offices, it’s all by the books. There may have been two or three times I have encountered actresses and managers walking the opposite way and a few times the meeting room happening to be in the studio movies are shot in, but that’s about it. My interactions otherwise are mostly over email and mainly consist of financial reports and requesting more movies.
JAV studios outside of the biggest are all in dire situations staffed by people who love their work, but don’t have enough hours in the day to do it. Please support them.
Q. And finally, where do you stand on that age-old question of how to pronounce “JAV”?
Some may disagree and that’s fine, but we recently took a poll and the results — which I personally agree with — have “JAV” being said out loud as one word (“Jav” like “have”) versus saying “J-A-V” as letters. J.A.V. sounds more like a degree nobody’s heard of!
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Very interesting but the Zenra site was down
Massive bummer
@TheDude
Are you accessing from Japan? It’s not available from a Japanese IP address (because obviously the industry wants you to use domestic platforms like Fanza).
Thanks that explains it
Time to check it out with a VPN
The Financial Times did a podcast about the adult industry in “Hot Money: porn, power and profit”, and while it has no mention of JAV, the sheer power which Visa/Mastercard holds over the industry is described in detail.
Great interview.
I think the only comment I can make is regarding this line:
“If this isn’t already being covertly done at a frantic pace by the likes of Fantia, I’d be very surprised.”
Why is that surprising? The guy has spent most of the interview basically explaining how DMM and Japan in general is slow and incompetent in regards to expanding JAV sales outside of Japan. Maybe DMM really just doesn’t care about potential customers outside of Japan. I don’t like it but I’ve accepted it at this point.
I can’t even buy gravure movies from them let alone porn.
R18 used to be my fav site to preview movies, but they shut down
What I really like about JAV is the niche stuff. SOD has the onsen dare series and the series where girls rub on some guys’ crotches, but slowly asked to take their under pants which leads to full sex. I know it’s not real seduction, but I like slow seduction. This is why the wife nude model series is enjoyable too.
So are the Nanpa series really true amateur girls being picked up on the streets as filmed or are they scripted ahead of time where the girl stands there waiting for guy to approach? How many of the scripted vids suddenly go unplanned. I remember an onsen dare series where the guy went a bit too far that the camera guy had to rush in and escort the girl out.
Also years ago there was a massage series called Akhibara Chiropractor where some girls would run out of the massage clinic after the masseuse got too touchy.
What are the company codes for the two above movies?